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Dear the Editor there is date here pls tell us,

We don't have the exact date, but it won't be that long.

Thanks for your enquiries

I'm sure it will be very interesting debate, but why AL-SHABAAB? Very sensative issue to mess with!!1

Mudane Birmad, we understand it's sensativity, but let's not get ahead of ourselves..

JWXO maxaa ka galay arimahaa? yay iska gadayaan? ma iyagaa ka masuul ah dhibka arinkaa ka yimaadda, ileen daacad ka noqon maysaane khalad ku ahayn?
Fadlan ka so jawaaba awaamirtaa,
Bulaale

Well, Ogaden-online lost it;s credibility, did they run short of articles? Hmmm, no wonder people resort to xaajo these days

Salaam people,

Let's give Ogaden online the chance present this debate then we can judge. I personnally feel that we should avoid this tapic but I cannot totally against it before i see what's all really about.

And please, we have rights to express our opinions, but please let's not compare Ogadenline who our serviced us over a decade to xaajo. That's insulting!!

Thnx. Miss Birmad.

Kill-maim-behead-torture-suicidebomb-the list is endless. The question is why are these so-called Al=-shabaab killing their muslim brothers in Somalia. The answer is simple. Agents of Tora-Bora have made Somalia a haven and would do anything to continue the ill-founded Bin-Ladin principle of Jihad based on personal glorification and political power. Make no mistake, the somali people will one day rise up against these bunch of murders who interpret Islam according to their whims and wishes. And when Somalis rise up may Lord have mercy on Al-Shabab murderers because even the trees will spy on them.

Dear sir,

We appreciate your efforts to provide forum for discussion to your Ogadenonline readers. That is why it is incumbent upon you to open this debate about so called Al-shabaab murderers. This will bring to the surface the agenda this group has not only in Somalia but in the whole region of the Horn.

Dear Editor,
This debate will be very important so I think it is good if you let us know in advance the date of the debate.
Thanks

From the 12 year-olds abducted from their families and schools to the 65-year old grandmother beheaded for simply being a mother of government soldiers to the young girl with hijab minding her business but caught and given 30 lashes by al-shabaab for wearing a bra !! to the maiming and killing of the precious few medical-school graduates Somalia has produced lately. The list of atrocities and cimes committed by these Bin-ladin boys can only be rivalled by those of the ethiopian colonizers. These people use disgruntled and socially disadvantaged street boys and middle-aged men to advance their agenda of attaining the seat of power in the horn. They indoctrinate young people by promising them heaven by killing fellow muslims. Whereas, our QUR'AAN teaches us that one who kills a muslim knowingly, his/her reward will be the hell fire. Al-shabaab is a political movement using religion as an instrument of control in their search for the reigns of power. How else would anyone with right mind explain the recent suicide bombing of the medical school graduates in Mogadishu.?. Their target was Caddow, a former colleque of theirs who happens to have disagreed with their philosophy of KILL-KILL-KILL-KILL( does this sound like Iraq?). Not only did they kill him but they have also murdered 19 graduates(children whose future they have taken away and the future of a society for which they have sacrified so much during those years they studied in a city of fire))their families together with two of the most socially active doctors in Somalia. No one will benefit from the prominance of al-shabab. Only ethiopian government and other states in the horn that base their agenda on the fight against terrorism will benefit from the mayhem and murder machine called al-shabaab. The other major player in al-shabaab murder club is worldwide network of Bin-ladin boys. In fact, most of their income comes from indoctrinated rich kids from Europe and America. These kids having failed to assimilate into the western socities to which they have migrated, they opted for a quick way of earning perceived recognition and martyrdom among bin ladin boys all the while their families back home are the first casualties of this ill-conceived movement. God forbid, but when al-shabaab infilterates( ONLF), that will be the last thing people of Ogaden need. This will only happen if they are allowed to breach their version of islam in the villages and towns of Ogaden. I have no doubt in my mind that the bin-ladin boys have made the wrong choice by making Somalia a stepping stone for their mission of KILL-KILL-KILL-KILL. because their day will come when their actions will haunt them because as the saying goes"what goes around comes around". Long Live ONLF, Long Live Somalis whoever they are and whereever they are
( sorry Al-shabbab not invited)

Discussing Al-shabab is not politically productive for the people of Ogaden. It is a common knowledge that al-shabab is being financed by the Saudi Secret Agents, who are allies of the government of the USA. It is also a well known fact and not an opinion that Saudi secret agents are trained by the CIA.
People of Ogaden are facing a total wipe-out from the face of the earth.
Topics worth discussing are the following.

1.why the Ogaden genocide is hidden while that of Darfur is widely publicized?

2.Why “Ethiopia’s major donors, Washington, London and Brussels, seem to be maintaining a conspiracy of silence around the Ogaden genocidal crimes?

first and for most I would like to appreciate the Ogaden public media ,and the leader of the team Ogaden online. Although some people are not well informed about the Ogaden online, they may think the Ogaden online is the official website of Political organization of Ogaden freedom fighters, O.N.l.f. as someone mentioned his above comment. Let explain to u about that verily O.N.l.f has its own website www.onlf.org and Ogaden Online is official home of Ogaden community Diaspora. Additional any mass media speak all about significant state of affairs of a community whether is political or health education security, genocide and much more.
The case of al shabab is deeply related to the region and as Ogadenian already effected, we must protest and discuss it. It’s one of major program of the region and Ogaden online have a right to do that. And those of you who don’t want to speak alshabab I justify that is only your vision. We need in peace freedom and human dignity as my opinion the woyane regime and alshabab have common behaviors, like intolerance and assassinations, killing of innocent people without evidence, without of trial court. So we are not welcoming any group who petrify and undignified the human dignity whatever redden, race, religion or size they may have, whether they are what so called government or organization. Peace and justice, equality is the goal of the genuine human being.

As you have said Ogaden Online is supposed to be the official home of the Ogaden community in Diaspora. Our people are being exterminated by the woyane regime led by Males Zenawi.
There is an ongoing Genocide in ogaden . It is either naive or an act of betrayal for ogaden online to invest it is resources on less urgent and less immediate than informing the Ogadeni Diaspora and world in general about the horrible and inhuman extinction of such a beautiful people.
If there is a topic worth discussing, it is indeed one of the following.

1. Why the Ogaden genocide is hidden while that of Darfur is widely publicized?
2. Why the silence around the Ogaden genocide crimes?
3. What can we do to break this silence?
4. Where can we get both political and military support?
5. What can an ordinary Ogadeni in Diaspora do apart from financially supporting the relatives in the refugee camps?
6. Is it a time to consider anti Washington, London, and Brussels, camps for support?

Al-shabab is a major threat for Somalis in general but as far as Ogaden is concerned the extermination of our people is an ongoing process committed by the Ethiopian woyane . Don’t get me wrong I hate everything this group of misled youth stands for but we must prioritise and remember every problem has its own time, right now our main concern should be saving what remains of Ogaden .Discussing anything else is a luxury that we cannot afford

I completely agree with Kamal and others who are questioning the wisdom and the necessity behind discussing Shabab at this time? Why Shabab while Meles killing our people willy nilly and no one is holding him accountable?

Kamal, I am working on a powerpoint presentation which will attempt to address your first three questions (many others) and will present at this University. There is another (American) fellow who is working with me on this and we invite and welcome your contributions.

my email: m.m.noah @ gmail DOTCOM

Dear kamal and mohmoud, as I assumed your warm comments. That is exactly how pointed out of the accurate perception. I just expressed my own observation. On the other hand, as I knew the Ogden Online administrator always does their best and they focus what is going on in Ogaden past and feture. And so you know, many times we read here the situation of Ogaden and may be still are a lot of concerns from Ogaden interaction. I hope this is the starting of different topic which will focus the current and past circumstances on going in ogadenia. So lets us step frontward, even though I am not one of administrators.

Thanks guys

I agreed with kamal and mohmoud 100 percent.

We have priorities people!. Let's focus on our issues first and debate about it. Because people are already getting too expressive about their feelings towards this group, and it will only get worse once the real debate starts. We should completely stay away about Somali affairs as we have our own to find a solution a for.

We respect Ogadenline administrators and appreciate their services. But we also have rights to raise our voice and contribute our ideas.

Miss. Birmad

Abdiqani,
Kamal & Birmad;

I couldn’t agree with you anymore.

We’ve issues of our own; let’s stick to them. Antagonizing militant groups inside Somalia is not a good idea. It’s a stance our political movement ONLF has taken ever since the fall of the central government in Somalia. Why change now?

Besides, the Shabaab group has become a force to reckon with in Somalia. Stake holders are now considering engaging them as they’re doing in Afganistan with the Taliban. There is also the phenomenon that is known “facts on the ground,” and the Shabaabs cannot be made to vanish from the political scene just like that no matter how irritating they’re. We’ve to content with that rudimentary fact.

When Zenawi was saying ‘we’ve burst the bubble from the Shabaab phenomenon’ shortly after invading Somalia; he himself discovered, quite belatedly, after two years of bitter fighting that the group’s bubble is too tick to be burst and that all he had done –if any--was to strengthen their hand. Something makes them tick, whatever that is. Our interests will be well served by not inventing with our hands another adversary in South-Central Somalia that compounds the Ethiopian vassal states we have already in NW & NE Somalia.

Well said Nuradin!

Now, every somalis will join www.ogaden.com in condemning also without reservation the brutal murders of the somali civilians... killing of non_compatant,pathetic excuse for a human being amounts to war crimes against humanity.appropriate company for al_shabab is stalin, hitler, begin, shameire, shareon, nettanyaho,mengistu..the vile deeds are perpetrated by those who SAY they love ISLAM, but they kill folk who SHOW they are muslims, AND NONE OF THEIR LEADERS HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT IS NOT RIGHT TO KILL FOLK LIKE THIS, The people of east_africa should unite if they want to face the looting, plundering and deceiving and murdering policies of al_shabaab and TPLF, who use ISLAM and democracy as a facade to loot and plunder and kill the EAST_AFRICANS as they have been doing for ages...They will kill whoever stands in their way to a comfortable and wealthy life while the majority suffer the consequences of their selfish greedy way of life.

AL-shabab preach peace and islam but deliver death and destruction to all those who oppose their evil policies. they expect us to be fooled by their so called re li gion, freedom,with their best shekhs in case they get caught out,

AL_SHABAAB want to impose THEIR IDEOLOGY through the barrel of a guN, like in the old days and the well known gum boat diplomacy. Today they resort to destructive weapons to impose their will on the SOMALI PEOPLE. We should bare in mind that when ETHIOPIA conquered OGADEN, they never cared about developing OGADENIA, because it was against their greedy interests. In fact during french colonialism in north africa less than a hundred people graduated from university cause they wanted to keep locals ignore ant, so they would not challenge european domination....THE SAME APPLIES TO al_shaidan.....

Let us face it. All Somalis whether in Ogaden, Somalia, Or North Eatern Kenya are not as Nationalistic as their Ethiopian or Kenya counterparts. The Ethiopian Regime invaded Somalia in order to put a lid on the freedom movement in the Ogaden. They thought if they (the Ethiopians) could divide the different tribes in Somalia and arm some against the others, the Somali Government would fall and the support for the oppressed people in the Ogaden will weaken in the process. That is exactly what happened and still happening after 20 years in Somalia. Coming back to my point, It seems every country in its hour of need produces leaders of vision who save such country but the Somalis( regardless where they are) have not produced such individual simpy because every Somali carries his/her tribe obove that of his country or community. The Success of Al-shabaab in Somali( a REAL TRAGEDY INDEED) was the result of principled ideology based on religion not tribalism. Similarly, if Somalis would develop or instill in their young people a sense of Nationalism( in Ogadenia, Somalia etc), they would have been free long time ago. So let us not kid ourselves with beautiful articles in the web or newspapers. What we need is ACTION based on natonalistic principles free from tribalism. Do not get me wrong, if the people of Ogaden unite through nationalistic principles and win their freedom & independence, I would be the happiest person on the face of the earth. But so long as this cancer of tribalism is entrenched in the minds of our leaders and youth in Ogaden & Somalia, the chances of freedom become slimmer day after day not only for the people of Ogaden but for all Somalis regardless where they reside in the Horn. Thus, the sudden rise of Al-Shaidaan in Somalia will have a negative and destructive effect in Ogaden simply because the people are Somalis and Al-Shaidan will reislamize the people of Ogaden. So wake up people and let us support anyone with a vision of saving this people from the brink of extinction. And let us nourish our young with new ideas of nationalism and start grassroot recruitment for nationalistic fighters whose salaries and weapons are paid by our people in the diaspora. Can we agree on anything?

i belive onlf is our heros , because they know what they doing they doing great job last 18 years, but i want say something about the people who support wayana and also live in ogadenia they will not enjoy in ogadenia, they must leave or they can support for ogadenia thats all, we are on the war so they come with us or they can leave our country, i hope the bad guys read this .if they try it to stay in ogadnia and same time work with woyana they will be kill by onlf just know that they come with us or they will be have no enjoyble in ogadenia.

Cajiib!
Waxaan la yaabanahay waxa ay bahda Ogaden online u wada masaxdo fariimahayga, kaliya waxaan sheegay laba arimood oo kala ah
1- Al shabaab yaynaan cadawga afrikaanka ah iyo inta soo raacday uga soko marin, ileen inaguba wa inaga maamulka Hargaysa godobta ay noo gaysteen la ooyaynee, intaasay Ogaden online u dulqaadan wayday.
2- JWXO ehelkaygay laysay, dhibse malaha oo halgan socda dhibaato way jiri kartaa, laakiin waxaad mooddaa inay fududdahay wax ka sheegidda ururada/waddamada/ashkhaasta kale, inagase markey teena timaad aad moodi in kitaabkii alle wax laga sheegay, war xadaaradda aynu la jaanqaadno oon laba mid yeelno, ama ururada kale gafkooda faraha ka qaadno ama oggolaada in inagana wax la inaga sheego!
Ismahaan

Ilmo adeerayaalow haddaad Lacag ku doonaysaan wax ka sheegidda Mujaahidiinta, amerika lacagtii ka dhamaatay ee alle ka baqa! mise kii wax idinka sheegaba waydun dili sidaad Mujaahid Doolaal u disheen? Kkkkkkkkkk

walaal waxaan u malaynayaa inay cidna kaa titirin ee waxaad garanladahay meeshii aad ku qortay commentskaaka. aan kuu tilmaamo waxaad ku dhufataa meesha ay horn news ku qorantahay. kadibna somalia kusii dhufo halkaas ayaay ahayd meeshii aad wax ku qortay. hubsiimo hal baa la siistaa. nasir jwxo sifiican baad u ciday. well said

waa sax in laga hadlo al-shabaab waayo waxay khatar kuyihiin hihaadka iyo xoraynta shacabka ogaden iyogoo wadaa dagaal kadhan ah jabhada jwxo waad ogtihiin in dagaalka aykula jiraan xisbul-islaam ubadaleen in ay onlf ladagaa lamayaan marka waxaa loobaahan yahay khatar kasta oo soo wajahda xoraynta ogaden waa in laga tashadaa. waad mahad santihiin,,,,,,,

webkan wax ka qoray alshabab waxaan uu haystay inuu yahay web ay leeyihin communtiga ka soo jeeda ogadenya una taagna xoraynta wadanka maqan ee dhibku ka jiro, maxaa isbadalay dadkii hawshisa waday maxaa iska badalay sabaabta keentay in la shabaab wakhti loogu lumiyo ma garan waana wax ila qaldan waayo kuma jiraan wax maanta laga hadlaayo kaliya waxaa ka hadli kara qofka sidooda ah ama rayi la qaba marka waxaan odhan lahaa waa dood qaldan fadlan iska dhaafa hadalka aan qiimaha lahayn waayo hal shay oo fican ka faa,iidi maysid waxaan la hadlayaa ninka uu samaxay in comments laga qoro alshaabab thanks

Hadduu Ina Cumar Cismaan u dilay Doolaal, wadaaddada uu ku biiray, miyey u daahayaan inay Al shabaab ka hadlaan, ururku DIIN necebaa, dadaal kasta uu sameeyo DIIN nacaybkaan lagu nacay,
Iska dhaanteeya, naago iyo niman music u shida, qabiil qabiilna isku xanta, korkana HALGAN baa socda dadka ugu sheekeeya, alla yaa qoorta idiin wada dheereeya